David Pestieau
What is your first reaction on this arrest?
Mohammed Hassan. It is amazing that the man most
wanted by the
Does the arrest of Saddam Hussein mean the end of the resistance
against
Mohammed Hassan. No. The arrest is a political
success for the
Add to this that the resistance is not solely composed of
members of the old Baath Party but also of other patriotic, nationalist and Islamic forces, in a sort of
federation.
With this arrest, the occupier hopes to have struck at a
part of the resistance leadership. But the objective conditions that give rise to the resistance are still in
place. The occupation continues, the economic crisis is very serious. Many Iraqi’s don’t even have the
food rations that they still received under Saddam Hussein. 400,000 soldiers have been demobilised without
retirement benefits or salaries. And 250 out of the 700 first soldiers of the new Iraqi army have deserted
right after their training.
History has proven that a colonial occupation cannot
crush a resistance, not even with the arrest of some of its leaders. Take
Has the arrest removed the main obstacle to democracy
and security in
Mohammed Hassan. There can never be democracy under
colonial occupation. The colonial democracy,
All this is happening in a context in which resistance
will most probably continue. And the
Helicopters
are being downed, there are attacks, US soldiers are being ambushed and killed. Not a day passes without the
Iraqi resistance dealing a blow to the occupation forces.
"The
resistance awakens all opposition to the Bush war policy: within Iraq, in the whole region, between Europe and
the US, and even within the American upper class", according to Middle East expert Mohammed Hassan.
Nov
12, 2003
The
Bush presidency has just received 87 billion dollars from Congress to continue the occupation of Iraq (and
Afghanistan). Yet in Congress, a few Democrats and even some Republicans who favored the war, are now opposing
the occupation. How did this come about ?
Mohammed
Hassan.
There has been dissent among the various factions of the US upper class since fifty years. There's an
internationalist wing of industrials, who advocate a policy of containment. This means to isolate communism
and to prevent it from gaining influence. A strong alliance with western Europe was needed for this. Another
faction is more connected to the oil and textile industry. They opt for a strategy of rollback, which means to
overthrow communism and all independent regimes. They have always claimed that the supremacy of the
Up to
the fall of the
Mohammed
Hassan.
After the fall of the
The
crisis of the late nineties, that still lingers on, has sparked a consensus to overthrow the alleged rogue
states. Wars against
In
Economically
speaking, it's about privatizing all
This is,
in fact, the same colonial policy as in the early 20th century.
Define
colonialism ?
Mohammed
Hassan.
There is no more constitution, no government, and all restoration contracts have been awarded to American
companies. Without any public bidding. It's a real robbery.
Take
this Halliburton firm for instance. Its president has been the
Not just
the reconstruction, but the building of a new oil refinery too. Most striking is the fact that the US Army
Corps of Engineers, assigned to the reconstruction, has raised the price based on a study by... Kellogg.
That's because the American oil empires want to do more than just drilling the existing oil fields; they want
to explore new ones, until they can get 8 million barrels per day out of the ground, that's their ambition.
In
the meantime,
Mohammed
Hassan. The
Americans are now doing in Iraq, what they have been doing all throughout the third world.
They turn manual laborers and well trained intellectuals into a mass of beggars and modern slaves. The
Americans are doing today, what the British did in the 1920's when they invaded
Since
the Soviet revolution and the later victory over fascism in WW II fueled the liberation from colonialism, it's
only logical that colonialism is now rising again, now that the socialist block has vanished.
But the
third world people, and certainly the Iraqis, have learned a lot in the past eighty years. The Iraqis realize
fully well that their country had the highest number of people with a degree of the whole Arab world. They
know that at a certain moment in time, their country has applied the enormous wealth of its oil to building a
modern state.
This
understanding is at the roots of the current resistance. If there is any dissent within American Congress,
it's only because the Iraqi resistance is proving every day that the
A
part of the European upper class seems to oppose this expansionism as well.
Mohammed
Hassan.
Yes, because the war against Iraq was also a war against Europe. Rollback goes against the policy of alliance
from before the fall of communism. The US are doing everything to divide Europe. To impose their rule
completely, they had to rearrange the regions of control, and start a war against
The
restored unity between
The
divisions are also developing within those countries that have remained loyal to the
Even
Chalabi,
Mohammed
Hassan.
It's because of the pro-American Kurds in Iraq. For ten years, they have controlled an independent area in the
north of
They
have a big influence on other pro-American factions. They are imposing their idea about an Iraqi federal
state. But they're so blinded by their narrow nationalism, that they fail to see that the
The
American army needed them for espionage and infiltration, before and after the war. But today, the Americans
realize that they control nothing more than that particular area.
So
Have
the US
failed in their assessment of things ?
Mohammed
Hassan.
Sure thing. Both Powell and Rumsfeld were forced to admit that they didn't expect such a powerful and
organized resistance. Contrary to their initial decisions, they have now drafted part of the former Iraqi army
again, to quickly bring about a new army under their command. But this makes Kurdish groups such as Talabani's
feel restricted in their power. And pro-American puppets like Chalabi feel the power slipping away from them.
So
the Americans would split power with elements from the former government that defect to them ? That would
explain why Rumsfeld talks about an Iraqi army of 200,000 men...
Mohammed
Hassan.
Right. The Americans are aiming for one or two opportunistic generals from the previous regime. So as to get
part of the roots of the Iraqi army under control. Because it's these people who are now unemployed or in the
resistance. In this way, the
The
former members of the Iraqi army are the only ones with military experience, who know the elementary
structures to erect a real army. But this option is very vulnerable, since such a new army would also be open
to infiltration from the resistance. And most of all: it's too late. If the
The
US are also encountering ever greater opposition from other countries within the region.
Mohammed
Hassan.
Yes, even from their traditional allies such as
Those statements
must have been forced by the overall population, that is supporting the Iraqi resistance?
Mohammed Hassan.
That is a factor indeed, but those are not demagogue statements really. Never before have Kuwait and Saudi
Arabia gone this far. These feodal regimes have realized that the US goals aren't limited to overthrowing the
Arab-nationalist regime of Saddam Hussain. They want to "democratize", or rather americanize, the
entire region. They want to replace all regimes within the Gulf with protectorates, where the locals will only
hold some very limited power.
The American anti-Saudi strategy was unveiled in a Congress report about the September 11 attacks. The role of the Saudi nation is questioned during several tens of pages.
This report demands a compensation of 3,000 billion
dollars, just about the entire American debt !
When the report was published in August, a delegation of
Saudi's headed by the heir to the throne went to Moscow to negociate an anti-dumping petrol agreement.
Saudi-Arabia commits itself, in accordance with Russia, not to decrease the oil price. You should realize that
Saudi-Arabia used to be one of the US's most important allies in its crusade against communism. That country
sponsored much of the American economy with its oil dollars. By consistently decreasing the oil price whenever
the Americans asked, the currency income dropped for the Arab nationalist countries, and for the Soviet Union,
that produces a lot of oil. This has lead to economic crises in these countries.
The deal between the Russians and the Saudis is an important change and challenge to American rule.
Saudi Arabia used to ask muslim associations within the US
to vote Bush, but now they ask to prevent his reelection in any way possible.
All these
differences are getting more pronounced as the Iraqi resistance proves to be stronger and better organized,
time and again.
Mohammed Hassan.
There's a link between different forms of resistance: military actions against American convoys, and some kind
of intifadah from within the people.
On Oct 31, the resistance announced a three day strike against the occupation, through a word-of-mouth campaign and illicitly distributed leaflets. On the next day, Baghdad was a dead place. The day after that, an American chopper was downed, with 20 killed. And on the next day, the headquarter of British and American troops was attacked. After the assault on vice-minister of defense Wolfowitz, on October 26th, this shows that the resistance wants to cause panic among the grunts within the American army, but also among its generals
and policy makers.
The Oct 27 attack
against the Red Cross raises some questions. Why target the humanitarian aid ?
Mohammed Hassan.
Things are more complicated than that. In the past ten years, the Red Cross and its Arab counterpart the Red
Crescent filed a very critical report about the effects of the trade embargo on the population.
After the fall of Baghdad, most of the Iraqi Red Crescent
personnel were chased out by occupation forces, because they were pro-Saddam. Instead, pro-Americans were
appointed as chiefs of the organisation. They only bring aid to areas under American control. For example,
nothing ever gets to the city of Fallujah, stronghold of the resistance. And we shouldn't be naïve about it:
the US army infiltrates this kind of organisation for its intelligence work. So there’s some motive to those
who attacked the Red Cross.
Can Iraq be compared
to Vietnam, as some analysts are doing ?
Mohammed Hassan. There are elements of similarity, true. But both wars should be placed in their own context. The war against Vietnam did fit within containment. The US wanted another Korea:
a communist North-Vietnam and a pro-American South-Vietnam.
But they had to deal with a strongly implanted guerilla, and a well organized communist party that had the
support of China and the Soviet Union.
In Iraq, the US are applying a logic of rollback. The Iraqi
resistance has no support from the Soviet Union, nor from any other powerful country, at least not openly. So
this situation is a lot tougher.
But the US have got some weak spots. They lost the
propaganda war within the Arab and muslim world. The resistance has got the support of about all layers of the
muslim world. The American agression has strongly raised the consciousness of over a billion people. The Iraqi
resistance won't be short of money anytime soon, as long as it continues to organize itself.
Nothing indicates that the American nation will be able to keep carrying the immeasurable burden of war without causing a major crisis within the US itself. Sooner or later, as the disagreements within Iraq and the region are mounting, the Americans will end up in a hopeless position, and they'll be forced to leave the country.